Thanks Cathy and Rose-Maree!! Thanks for you help, I will try 30 stitches on 5.5 mm with garter stitck borders and stocking stitch innards!!!. I can start today now - while the thick fog reflects extra light!!!! Scarf Jack was such an excellent show and it had a terrific theme song too. I think someone like barbara Dickson sang it - I googled and couldn't find out. There is a very versatile scarf knitted on circular needles in the new Australian Stitches. It can be : a hat, a cowl, a shrug, a scarf, a wrap and much, much more!!!